tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342742228702877343.post6781905497849690830..comments2024-02-11T19:31:25.745+00:00Comments on The Yorkist Age: Constanza, Duchess of LancasterBrian Wainwrighthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16867772590464992131noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342742228702877343.post-53633186208799336362017-10-21T10:25:30.146+01:002017-10-21T10:25:30.146+01:00Just picked this up, sorry. I'm not sure of th...Just picked this up, sorry. I'm not sure of the source of the "gigantic" skeleton, but W.E, Hampton in Memorials of the Wars of the Roses, describes just such a skeleton in the case of Henry, Duke of Warwick, who was buried at Tewkesbury. Henry was, of course, Edmund of Langley's great-grandson through Constance of York.<br /><br />I agree that inherited characteristics do not necessarily follow a neat flow from one generation to the next. My point was that Edward IV's stature is often assumed to come from the Nevilles, but on very scant evidence. Though of course the Nevilles in question also had Plantagenet ancestors, notably John of Gaunt. <br /><br />As an aside I have my doubts about the assessed height of Clarence judged from the alleged bones at Tewkesbury, as I am far from convinced that the said bones are his. Brian Wainwrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16867772590464992131noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2342742228702877343.post-71033577386497715492016-02-20T20:02:11.007+00:002016-02-20T20:02:11.007+00:00Inherited characteristics do not always follow a l...Inherited characteristics do not always follow a linear pattern. We have a 19th century description of Richard of Conisborough's headless skeleton as "gigantic" which I would take to mean very tall. Unfortunately nobody bothered to take precise measurements before the skeleton was re-interred. His son, Richard of York was certainly much shorter, possibly showing Mortimer traits, but we also know that Edward IV was 6'4", but his other brothers were under 6". So it was of some interest to read that Pedro the Cruel was also a tall man and possibly passed that gene to his grandson Richard through Isabella.<br />And this is even more interesting as there is now a strong case for claiming that Richard of Conisborough was not the son of Edmund of Langley and not a Plantagenet after all!Bryan Dunleavyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13550652628913169630noreply@blogger.com